Very nice vest your daughter picked out. I vote that you will be fine with your yardage. Look forward to seeing the finished vest on Sam.
Posted by ~S at January 3, 2012 10:40 AMIntuition doesn't always ring true - bought two extra skeins of lovely Aran on a recent trip to Ireland, knit the very complicated cardigan, and ran out just before the pocket and button bands. Went back to said Ireland, searched for a matching yarn, found none, and am still looking here in the states. But you'll be fine, since dyelots on blues are easier to disguise than cream/white. Keep writing - love your blogs!!
Posted by Carol Boomershine at January 3, 2012 10:46 AMoooh, that pattern is in my queue... can't wait to see how it turns out and to see if / when you do any mods and how you do them. Also, whether the yarn quantity holds up. Sending you good knitter vibes that you have enough.
Posted by Denise at January 3, 2012 10:52 AMThat is a nice pattern and I suspect it will get the YH "bump" as soon as you finish it... I may make it for my own daughter, aged 22..... I am now on my third peurperium cardi, inspired by Stephanie's--- making one on consignment for barter with a friend, others have gone to charity-
Happy 2012 everyone....
I do love the color. And vests are one of my favorite pieces of clothing to add warmth--they allow my arms more freedom than a sweater and keep my body core warmer.
Posted by Deborah at January 3, 2012 10:55 AMBut you have THREE skeins and the pattern calls for FIVE skeins, so it's not 16 meters, it's more like 1700 meters, or am I just tired?
I'm also in the you've got enough camp ... but will be checking back to see :)
Posted by Debbie at January 3, 2012 11:12 AMSo you're saying I should quash my plan to turn some of those diagonals on a traditional argyle into cables? Because I think the idea has potential. Potential to drive the knitter right over the edge of sanity and down a nice long fall into the depths of the crazy sea, but potential none the less.
Posted by hunter at January 3, 2012 11:13 AMI think you will have enough yarn for sure, I am also sending you good knitterly thoughts for good measure just in case! :)
Posted by DarBKnits at January 3, 2012 11:14 AMAlso sending you good vibes! You can do it!! Also great pattern and after you make I will probably have to too!
Posted by Candi at January 3, 2012 11:17 AMYou should be fine for wool but I'll keep my fingers crossed for you just in case!!
Posted by wildflowerwool at January 3, 2012 11:19 AMI'm in a similar state of denial with a pair of Splitbark Mittens for my daughter. I knit one from yarn of which I have plenty but felt it didn't have enough character to show off this wonderful pattern. So I started another pair from a skein of ancient, discontinued, but loaded-with-character yarn. We are intrepid; we carry on.
Posted by Sally at January 3, 2012 11:21 AMThat's my kind of blue. What's the colorway?
Posted by Holly at January 3, 2012 11:25 AMUmmmm...about the yarn quantity: I made the 'Silken Scabard' from Stitch Diva for my dd for Christmas. I thought I'd ordered plenty of yarn (Elann Sonata Soft). I had gauge. I had to add 8 rows to the bodice, but that was it. Sleeve length (my dd likes 'em *long*) was, in the end, fine just as the pattern read. But...after finishing the sleeves (this is a top-down pattern, no seams)...I had to order an extra ball, and even then ended with a narrower ribbing at the bottom just so I could cast off. The collar (a stand-up) has live sts that have to be cast off after the garment is finished -- and I ended up casting off 1/2 of them with the pitiful string I'd had left -- and half of them with DMC cotton embroidery floss in the closest colour I had! So...
Get Tina to send you another ball!!
And...umm...."Flourish" is lovely -- but it's not in the least "baggy". Has your daughter decided the '80s weren't 'where it's at' after all?
Posted by Marg in Mirror, AB at January 3, 2012 11:32 AMI find that if you can knit fast enough, you can generally get it finished before the yarn runs out - so at your lightning speed, you shouldn't have a problem at all! (please don't point out the lack of logic in my beliefs, if I stopped praying to the wooly powers that be I wouldn't get anything finished!)
Posted by Cynthia A at January 3, 2012 11:36 AMIf I were knitting for a teenage female recipient (particularly a daughter) the last thing I'd be worrying about was having enough yarn -- there are a thousand other perfectly good reasons why she won't be happy with it in the end. But good luck!
Posted by Woolfreeandlovin'knit at January 3, 2012 11:45 AMI'm so glad you included that 2nd PPS - I was already googling it before I finished reading. :)
Posted by Kate at January 3, 2012 11:45 AMI wonder how it is that I have the pattern for that vest (or the magazine anyway) and I never noticed it before. I think it's really funny sometimes how we don't notice a pattern on the initial viewing but then see it finished and fall in love only to realize we've had it all along. It's like the Ruby Slipper effect for knitting.
Also I love the yarn color; it's gorgeous.
Posted by Connie at January 3, 2012 11:49 AMI'm with Leta. If you had five skeins each short by 16 I would agree you are safe. But you appear to be short both two skeins and 16x3 that you do have. Although over 4200 for a vest seems a lot even for a long vest. Good thing you know the yarn purveyor so well and she indubitably has your back, especially since it is not a vintage color/dye lot.
Posted by Julia at January 3, 2012 11:52 AMWhen the hell did the eighties come back? I love the color but am still disturbed by that whole eighties mess.
Posted by Letha at January 3, 2012 11:53 AMPockets inserted in the side seams? Dye lot of your choice... ;^)
Posted by PepperReed at January 3, 2012 11:55 AMYour negotiation with Sam is one of the reasons why I don't really offer that as an option for my family. It might be bad to do that with somebody who at least has familiarity with knitting, but doing it with somebody who knows nothing about knitting...
Just say that my last project involved more socks than a person should get for a single holiday. Whew!
Posted by Seanna Lea at January 3, 2012 11:58 AMGood luck! Knitting by request is *so* hard.
Posted by nellsdottir at January 3, 2012 11:59 AMI am correcting myself as I went back and looked at Gaea yardage at BMFA. You are talking *total* yardage of 834 versus 850. You are way safe.
Posted by Julia at January 3, 2012 12:00 PMI'm making a hat with "argyle" cables on it. It's the perfect description. Mine has diamond shaped cables with seed stitch filling them in. I love them, and I'm trying to find more things to put them on.
Posted by ritan7471 at January 3, 2012 12:02 PMIm going for it. I think you'll be fine. The fronts are going to take up a lot less yarn than the back and that looks like what you did first. If you insert pockets, they don't have to be the same color, right? right?
Cheers!
PS - can't wait to see the KWB total.
Trying knitting VERY slowly. It makes the wool last longer. ;-)
Posted by Anne at January 3, 2012 12:05 PMTotally got the "Argyle Cables" thing.
The other dye lot could go for pocket linings too.
I'm with you all the way; you absolutely should be fine!
Looking forward to seeing how it all works out.
Thank GOODNESS about the argyle cables. I was getting ready to write an email to Casey and Jess at Ravelry about how we need a new pattern attribute tag. But the idea does sound intriguing.
Posted by Jessica at January 3, 2012 12:10 PMI'm sending skein lengthening thoughts your way.
Posted by Kelli at January 3, 2012 12:18 PMHas anyone else on Rav knit it up in the same size? That's where I usually head when I get yardage nerves - it's often a good sanity check!
Posted by Marri at January 3, 2012 12:25 PMI can't tell you how distressed I am to learn that the 80s are back. Do we have confirmation on this awful news?
Posted by Michelle at January 3, 2012 12:28 PMAy ay ay.
Posted by Ed at January 3, 2012 12:29 PMApparently we're on the same brain wave. When you said she asked for "Argyle Cables," I knew exactly what she meant...
Posted by Chelsea the Yarngeek at January 3, 2012 12:33 PMIt the 80s were really back, Sam never would have agreed to real wool. I love the vest, never heard of argyle cables before, but now I know exactly what they are! I'm betting you'll have enough yarn. (I'm really hoping you do!)
Posted by Sheila at January 3, 2012 12:39 PMI design patterns for my shop. Since I am an American and so are most of my customers, this is what I do: I work out the amount of yarn needed in YARDAGE as I construct the design. Then, when I actually write the pattern, I round the yardage UP by 20 yards to allow for loose knitters, and put THAT number in METERS. I don't CONVERT it to meters. For example, if I actually USED use 430 YARDS of yarn for the prototype, I will round it up to 450 yards, and then call for 450 METERS in the pattern. Many yarn companies list their content on the label in meters anyway. This way the person who uses my pattern is virtually guaranteed NOT to run out of yarn. I have never had a complaint.
I also put the yarn weight, i.e., : "450 meters -- x ounces or y grams of sock yarn."
I don't know if other independent designers do this, but I think everyone should.
I do know that pattern-writers for yarn companies have the objective to sell more of their employers' yarn, so if it's a photo-finish with four balls of yarn, they'll tell you to buy five balls and not four.
Posted by Dez Crawford at January 3, 2012 12:42 PMI knew what you meant too, about the argyle cables. Although I was thinking like those diamond ones on the must-have cardigan. These are more swirly somehow. And yes, I agree with your logic - you'll be fine. Unless she wants it longer than the pattern or something...
Posted by Su1282 at January 3, 2012 12:50 PMI do not have knitter's denial. And, if anyone says I do I will deny it.
Happy New Year!
Posted by Steve at January 3, 2012 1:07 PMProbably not your situation due to the cables, but - human hands always get more rows to the inch than a knitting machine and so many models are machine-knit.
Posted by M at January 3, 2012 1:08 PMThis may or may not help, but I just happened to see this vest, which could help with comparisons for amount of yarn required, do you think?
http://www.knitty.com/ISSUEwbis11/PATTfirelight.php
I wish, wish, wish, i could have heard you read the justification of yardage because I know I would have been even better aloud. Fingers crossed.
Posted by Suzanne at January 3, 2012 1:25 PMLeta is my leader. You're screwed. Three is not four, which is what your poor, frazzled, screaming subconscious is trying to communicate to you, jumping up and down on your fictitious math.
I assume you started rippng before you ever saw this.
Posted by rams at January 3, 2012 1:30 PMHmmm, when you said Sam wanted argyle cables, I understood what she meant. I'm not sure what this means other than I, too, have survived being a parent to a teen who always knew exactly what she wanted.
Posted by Diane at January 3, 2012 1:34 PMUm, I'm not a math whiz by any stretch of the imagination but THREE balls does not equal FIVE balls. So you have a bigger problem than 48 meters of yarn by my calculations. I would get on the phone to Tina and see if she could rustle me up a couple of balls of yarn.
Sam pick out a nice pattern that will look very good on her and I love the color of the yarn.
Posted by Judy at January 3, 2012 1:40 PMOh, I am in the same place with a vest. I never know if that little voice is right or if it is just anxiety because I love the yarn so much that I fear that there is no way I will achieve the happiness the vest will give me.
Ignore the clothes - "Hungry Like a Wolf" still rules.
Posted by Gillian at January 3, 2012 1:44 PMYou could put the cutest afterthought pockets in the bottom circle type bits formed by the cables.
You know, with all that extra yarn your knitterly spidey sense says you'll have... Hmmm...
Good luck!
Posted by TheKrazySheep at January 3, 2012 1:48 PMPlease tell me that you've got a typo in your post & that it's 3 yards of Rowan that it takes, not 5! That's over 4000 yards to a vest, which doesn't make sense, either!
Posted by Samina at January 3, 2012 1:50 PMI must be getting old . . . the 80's might be back, but they will NEVER be good . . . and the Flourish Vest is anything but 80's. 80's required bagginess on a grand scale. ;o) And skinny jeans. And keds.
Posted by Annalea at January 3, 2012 1:51 PMFair warning if you ever knit a Romi Hill design (all of which I adore); she frequently uses EVERY.LAST.INCH.
Posted by Michelle McMillen at January 3, 2012 1:54 PMGorgeous pattern and yarn combination. Crossing my fingers that you have enough yarn.
Posted by Heide at January 3, 2012 2:00 PMI went shopping with my mom, lifted a sweater off the rack, and said "I thought I'd go to the grave without ever seeing one of these batwing sweaters again." I'm with Sam on the eighties.
As for the yarn, I would call Tina right away and beg. Then, if you have extra yarn, you can make her a hat (or, if she objects on the ground of "matchy, matchy," you can give the hat to Amanda!)
Posted by Aileen at January 3, 2012 2:00 PMAbout the pockets... since it's seamed, could you cut fabric pockets, like a lining, and sew them into the side seams on each side?
It would eliminates the worry of having to use up yarn on them, and having been there in a "oh the pockets don't matter" sort of way ... yes they do. I'm seriously considering unpicking the side seams on a recently completed, much-loved, and yet mostly unworn cardigan because of it. :(
Posted by Laura H at January 3, 2012 2:06 PMBut then there was the time I had to break into a $40 skein because I needed 16 meters MORE to finish.
Posted by Marilyn R at January 3, 2012 2:13 PMI'm feeling the same type of pressure as I take on the unwieldy challenge that is my stash. This year my goal is to knit only from my stash for as long as possible, which will mean lots of dithering on whether or not I have enough yarn to finish my projects and some heavy risk-taking behaviors.
I know this goes against your very grain as a knitter/yarn hoarder, but would you be interested in joining in my stash-busting challenge? : ) I'd be thrilled!!!!
Here's more info on the challenge:
http://www.creatingafamilyhome.com/2012/01/its-official-2012-knitting-crafting.html
Posted by Kelly at January 3, 2012 2:13 PMI was in the same camp as Leta and Rams (ie, you've either got a typo or your massively screwed by being 2 skeins short) when I realized that you were actually stating that the original calls for 5 balls TOTALLING 850m, while you have 3 balls with a total length of 834m.
Cute vest! I don't recall anything like that in the 80s, though.
You're not telling us the colorway because you're afraid we'll all go buy ever last meter from Tina, right? And you won't be able to buy an additional skein if you need it.
Meanie.
;o)
That vest has been in my queue forever. I'm going to watch you finish it first before I try it though. You know, in case things don't work out :)
Posted by Cinnamon at January 3, 2012 2:39 PMOf course I'll 'bloody well remind you.' Carry on.
Posted by Presbytera at January 3, 2012 2:44 PMOh dear God... don't do it.... don't do it.... this seems like a giant, flashing neon sign to the knitting fates with the words, "SMITE ME! I DARE YOU!" on it. >.<"
Posted by Fishykitty at January 3, 2012 2:55 PMI hate that feeling that I might not have enough yarn. Which is probably why I always order way more than I need and as a consequence have a bazillion leftovers skeins in my closet.
Love the vest choice! I know how hard it is to get it "just right" for older daughters! I have two that I cautiously knit for.
Posted by kristieinbc at January 3, 2012 3:06 PMOlolol~
When I read "Argyle Cables" and didn't recognize it, I totally and completely spent almost an hour on Google frantically searching for the definition. Colourwork cables? Diamond shaped cables? Argyle WITH CABLES ADDED IN???
Then I come back here, defeated, knowing in my heart of hearts that the gloriousness that is Argyle Cables (so important to knitterdom it is obviously a proper noun) shall be unknown to me until you post pictures of this strange and obscure (and probably Newfoundland-born, knowing them) knitting phenomena.
Then I get to the end of the post and see that it's a term that doesn't exist after all! :D
*facepalm*
Good luck on the vest, by the by. I'm always one to trust my gut, and if your gut says "don't do it" well...Eh, maybe it's a fluke and the math is right after all. Maybe.
(Also, WTF at everyone spazzing because your total yardage was accomplished with two balls less than the original yarn's total yardage? It's meters that matter, not balls!)
Posted by Winnie at January 3, 2012 3:14 PMWell I knew right away what you meant - I mean really, Rowan packing a skein of ANYTHING in a single 850 metre bundle??? And in an aran weight each skein would need it's own bag. Heck we could never sneak that into the house. Presb, Rams, Leta, I know you had her back, but you probably sent her into full panic!
Posted by Friday's Mom at January 3, 2012 3:14 PMI'm all about being optimistic on yardage, but gut feelings have an unfortunate way of being right, and they tell the little voice that exists only to say, I told you so... You have 3 balls of yarn instead of the 5, but the yardage between the 3 balls and the 5 balls is extremely close, Good Luck!
Posted by Annie in Montana at January 3, 2012 3:24 PMI just got Connie Chang Chincio's new book, Textured Stitches, and she has at least two patterns with what she calls argyle cables. I hadn't heard it before, either.
Posted by Lee at January 3, 2012 3:35 PMKnit faster. That way you finish before you run out of yarn. Hey, it's (almost) always worked for me!
Posted by violet at January 3, 2012 3:44 PMYou were talking about electronic scales the other day. This is the sort of moment when they save the day. I'm working on a vest too and after weighing the yarn yesterday with the back a third done, went from, no way to wow do I have more than I need. Phew!
Good luck!
Posted by AlisonH at January 3, 2012 3:49 PMit looks like DNA!!!!! fun!!!
Posted by Kim at January 3, 2012 3:49 PMWe haven't reached the sweater stage by a long chalk, but my 16 year-old has not only been wearing his birthday hat every day, but has requested another - strike!
I hate to be the Voice of Gloom, but when I clicked on that gorgeous yarn I read that it's sent from Argentina to Germany and then back to the USofA. I must confess that's really dampened my enthusiasm, but I'd never thought much about the carbon footprint of yarn before...
Posted by debby(m) in germany at January 3, 2012 3:51 PMI am not a knitter and I must be missing something really important but if the pattern calls for 5 balls at 850 meters each (4250 total meters) and YOU have 3 balls at 834 each (2502 meters total) it seems to me you only have about half what you need. I sure hope there is a typo somewhere so you get to finish the vest witout the front being a completely differnt yarn!
Posted by jannie at January 3, 2012 3:53 PMOh, dear. 5 x 850 = 4250 3 x 834 = 2502. That's a BIG discrepancy. Call/search/beg for more yarn...fast.
Posted by Judy at January 3, 2012 3:54 PMI know from experience that the instinct that you don't have enough yarn will be false more often than not: I recently made an EZ Hybrid sweater for my dad, and had to estimate the amount of yarn I needed based off of other people who've knit it (which wasn't much help because I was doing it in sport and almost everyone does these things in worsted) and the amount of yarn I've used for past sweaters on him. I've always had several balls of leftovers for his sweaters, so I tried to cut them down as much as possible. My instincts were SCREAMING at me that I didn't have enough yarn, when I pressed the "order" button, when I got all the yarn, and while I was knitting it. You know what? I still had two extra, UNTOUCHED 50g balls. You'll be fine.
Posted by Sarah at January 3, 2012 4:06 PMYou could make someone's day, and PM one of the people on Rav who made this vest, in the size you are doing, and ask them how much yarn they used!
Posted by Colleen at January 3, 2012 4:11 PMI can't wait to have these type of collaborations with my daughter. She is 2 and decided this morning that she should wear the bright pink shirt with the sky blue Like Sleeves tunic that I knit to be more of a dress than a tunic would be a smashing combo (I was encouraging her to choose the grey t shirt but I am learning, girls don’t listen especially to their mums). The ensemble completed with hello kitty socks and blue leggings.
Posted by Amy at January 3, 2012 4:29 PMI'd probably sneak the pockets right into the middle of those big ol' spaces at the bottom of the cables. Just because it'd be different. Of course, I have small hands, so they wouldn't be just decorative....
Posted by Carole at January 3, 2012 4:30 PMI bet you could make pockets in the loopy space between the two cables...
Posted by OnlyPlaying at January 3, 2012 4:30 PMWow that looks like a lovely yarn. Hope you have enough!
Posted by Cleo at January 3, 2012 4:41 PMI just knit a cowl for my cousin that required a bulky yarn, but I ended up used a double strand of worsted weight instead. I used my ball winder to coordinate the two balls into one, and discovered that I had good 10m extra on one of the balls! I'm sure that you'll be good to go with the vest!
Happy Knitting! :)
VERY PRETTY pattern and I love the color of the yarn.
Also, if, should the knitting fates be cruel and you end up without enough yarn, you could use a different dye lot and call it a "design feature" (as I refer to all "mistakes" in knitting... there's no such thing, they're just "design features" to make each pattern that knitters own.)
Posted by NY Phoenix at January 3, 2012 4:54 PMThis will be an awesome vest! Great color. This cable shouldn't take up too much yarn, no? I'm not a very good judge because I don't have enough yarn for my featherweight cardigan that is more than halfway done. Ugh! Fingers crossed you have enough yarn for the vest. ;)
Posted by Donna at January 3, 2012 4:59 PMHow can I find the pattern for the Scandinavian baby bonnet referenced in 'Secret Life of a Knitter?'
Thanks!
I thought Collen's suggestion of checking on Rav had some merit, so out of curiosity, I took a look at the completed projects and here's what I found:
2 projects made 32" size- one reported using 552 yards(?!), the other 728 yards
2 projects made 36" size- both used 740 yards
1 project made 40" size- used 880 yards
1 made 'a bit bigger than smallest size' used 726 yards
1 of unknown size that used 849.7 yards (but added cables to the back)
1 'medium' size that reported 948 yards (which is a bit over the 930 yard mark- 930 yards=850 meters- (but it looks like hers was made long, too).
The sense of the meeting is that most people are using less than 800 yards (or less than 732 meters). That suggests unless you're knitting a really large size, you're probably fine.
Posted by RobinH at January 3, 2012 5:14 PMDamn the torpedoes and full speed ahead, no guts, no glory!!
Posted by Theresa at January 3, 2012 5:23 PM"You fool! You don't have enough yarn, and you know it!!!!!" (emphasis mine) Save yourself, NOW!
Posted by Ann Bedell Hunt at January 3, 2012 5:41 PMYou should be fine -- but I hope you have enough for the pockets! LOL
Posted by Donna C at January 3, 2012 5:53 PMThat yarn is scrumptious, lovely, gorgeous, fantastic, I need some............... now...........
Posted by Pat at January 3, 2012 5:54 PMNot to jinx you or anything, but - I once started a project for which I had lots of yarn. The pattern said 8 balls and I had 10. Gosh darn it how could I go wrong? I started knitting and I thought the first ball of yarn went awfully fast. Surely I wasn't 1/8 of the way through the pattern yet. But I let my brain overrule my gut and I continued. I knitted and knitted and those balls sure got used up fast and the next thing you know there were no more balls in my little bag. @&$*#! I said. Those darned designers - they should be sued! I put it aside, knowing that (1) even though I shouldn't have, I had run out of yarn, and (2) I couldn't get any more.
Some weeks later a tiny little thought sneaked up out of the bottom of my brain, and I checked the ball bands. Yep, those were 25 gram balls, and I had been thinking they were 50 and all through all that knitting I hadn't thought to check.
So: are you *sure* the weight you have is the same weight you need? Does it seem like a reasonable weight of yarn for what you're knitting? If so, you can reflect that designers *really* don't want to be sued (or even dissed online by irritated knitters) and you've probably got more than enough yarn.
By the way - your spidey-senses are probably tingling because you're used to knitting sweaters, and this is a vest.
Posted by Adele at January 3, 2012 6:08 PMI would hold Samantha to the 'no pockets' thing, because I would not be able to figure out where to put them. The cabling goes down the sides of the front, so there is no place for pockets.
If you are a little short on yarn, shorten the vest in general. It seems kind of long for a vest, anyway.
First work one side of the front. it should take about 1/4 of the total yarn weight. Weigh that piece. If it weighs too much to allow for the other 3/4, work the other parts making them shorter. Another option is to just see how many skeins that front took. Weighing may not be necessary. It is not to horrific to rework that first side to shorten it later.
Or, you can check to see if you can get another skein of the yarn from your friend, but ask NOW, while she still has it.
Posted by marilyn at January 3, 2012 6:53 PMI started Flourish back in June. All of the pieces are sitting in my knitting corner begging to be sewn together. I hate sewing!
Posted by Kimberly at January 3, 2012 7:04 PMGood luck, Stephanie!
I am the person who DID run out of yarn during the 1st "Knitting Olympics," due to a combination of trying to believe I had enough and a serious miscommunication with the yarn shop owner in another town who, when I called her to get more of the yarn, 1st of all didn't understand the Knitting Olympics AT ALL (should've been my 1st clue), plus she ignored my clear statement about the yarn color number and sent me the color she thought I wanted, which was SO wrong.
Deep breath. You'd think I'd be over it by now, but clearly I have issues. :)
May your knitting lengths (heh, heh) be better than mine were back then!
Posted by Judy in MT at January 3, 2012 7:24 PMGaea!! I made mittens for my daughter in Gaea for Christmas, and I've promised her a headband too. I love this yarn! It's airy but thick and warm. Soft and squishy, fluffy and luxurious… I want to bathe in it.
Posted by Maria at January 3, 2012 7:27 PMSomeone mentioned it already, but I second putting afterthought pockets would work a treat. I also think they'd look pretty awesome in the large cable on the bottom. (Plus, afterthought pockets would be suitable for another dyelot as well.)
Posted by Kathryn at January 3, 2012 7:30 PMI love your blog!!
Posted by Wendy at January 3, 2012 7:32 PMFaced with this dilemma, i recommend figuring out square inches on the pieces and constantly weighing yarn to drive yourself fully nutso.
Posted by Annie Driscoll at January 3, 2012 7:45 PM...Steph! Say it with me.."I don't have enought yarn, I don't have enought yarn". STEPH! I really think you should not jump off that cliff....AGAIN!
Posted by B. Rickman at January 3, 2012 7:49 PMYou would probably get a lot of anxiety relief if you go read the remarks on the Rav project gallery of completed projects for this vest. I second those who pointed out that whether or not you have enough yarn really depends on what size you are making here. Do yourself a favor, go read. Then you can knit on in peace. Good luck with that. Apparently, there is a lot of "at the same time-ness" in this pattern. I'm mid-knit on something similar and am not knitting like someone with 40 years of experience at it, due to the aforesaid "at the same time-ness" in my pattern, too. I just keep thinking how warm I will be wearing my lovely cabled sweater - under my straight jacket.
Posted by shawlwoman at January 3, 2012 7:56 PMI'm with Leta. See if you can get an extra ball just for peace of mind. I also like Marilyn's suggestions.
Posted by marjorie at January 3, 2012 8:03 PMI have also been searching for a great vest pattern on Ravelry and elsewhere. Thanks for the link to this pattern!
Posted by Melissa at January 3, 2012 8:09 PMI lived my entire teens in the 80s, and I don't remember seeing this sweater. Which, in my mind, is A GOOD OMEN.
Posted by ContemporaryInsanity at January 3, 2012 8:13 PMThe 5 skeins recommended would likely allow for mittens, hat, scarf, or a felted bag, but where would the excitement be if you knew you had enough wool? In any case, enjoy the knitting!
Posted by Rebecca at January 3, 2012 8:20 PMI'm confused how 3 slightly smaller skeins would be enough to knit a garmet that calls for 5 slightly larger balls. ??? Typo I hope.
Posted by Deb at January 3, 2012 8:24 PMLove the yarn. It should turn out beautiful and " I'm sure " ( she says with breath held) there'll be enough yarn to complete the vest !
Posted by Maree at January 3, 2012 8:32 PMIf the 80's are back does that mean that I have to start making those ridiculous sweaters that fall off one shoulder and are big enough to put two Sam's into?
Posted by Susan at January 3, 2012 8:37 PMWell, those huge sweaters were great to nurse the baby discreetly...
So, if I were designing a pattern, I would try to overestimate the yardage, just to be safe. But If I were Tina, I'd reserve a skein, just for you.
I love how the cables get smaller, and smaller, and the yarn is too beautiful.
I'm sure it will sell out fast.
Posted by Juliet in Grand Rapids at January 3, 2012 9:31 PMI am so annoyed that the 80s are back. Who thinks it's cute that when you raise your dolmen-sleeved arm, your belly shows? Gag me.
Can't wait to see the results of your math magic.
Posted by KnitMary at January 3, 2012 9:32 PMOkay, but now I actually want "argyle cables." There must be a way.. (I really like that yarn too - it'll be a beautiful vest, and you'll totally have enough yarn.)
Posted by notsocrafty at January 3, 2012 9:41 PM*fingers crossed for you*
It's a great pattern--I hope all goes well!
Oh my glob!!!! Have any of you "math whizzes" EVER EVEN KNIT A SWEATER BEFORE?!?!?! You could cover a damn Volkswagon with over 4000 yds. of yarn!!! Unless Steph is knitting with thread, she's talking about TOTAL yardage, one happens to be in 5 balls, the other in 3! Get a grip, people!
Now Steph, my words of wisdom to you on the matter are this: Knit fast! You'll finish faster, and you won't run out of yarn. Everybody knows that!
One more correction of myself. You are talking meters, not yards. So, total meters of 834, versus 850. You are way safe.
(What is the metric equivalent of "yardage" ? "meterage" ? "Total meterage" doesn't sound like a real expression. Inquiring minds want to know. ... Or to be closer to the 80s "things that make you say hmmmmm")
If you really want to get nuts, read all the different advice in the comments.
Posted by eva at January 3, 2012 11:09 PMI bet that since Tina reads your blog and is such a good person she's. Already sent you an extra skein.
Posted by annie at January 3, 2012 11:21 PMI, too, think you'll have enough yarn. You may need to block the living daylights out of the vest, and sew the buttons on with scrap yarn that matches the color of the buttons (so it isn't too obvious), but I think you'll have enough of the main color. Just enough to make Sam a lovely midriff-baring vest. ;-)
I do hope you cleared the yarn color with her after swatching. Denim-ish colors can be so difficult to get right. One person's perfect shade of faded Levis is often another's garish nightmare. Just sayin'.
And, cause I'm not on Twhatter -- Yes, the cat IS cold. And she's phoned the local humane society to report you. And she's contacted a lawyer to divorce you and sue you for damages. (And she's every bit as lovely as her human "mom" and "sisters"!)
Posted by Anonymous, too at January 3, 2012 11:40 PMHi, Stephanie,
So,... there are 2 possibilities, 1. You have enough yarn, no problem or 2. you run out. In which case you call Tina and see if she can round up another ball. Or maybe these button bands need to be contrasting, as in black. I really like contrasting button bands, but you'll have to discuss it with your 18 year old. My grandson has a great green/blue and black pullover. It looks great on him and nobody knows I ran out of the green/blue.
Julie
Is it just me or would this vest be so bad-ass with a hood?? :) can't wait to see the finished product!!!
Posted by Cristina at January 4, 2012 1:41 AMOh my goodness. Stephanie I love you, and Sam, and Tina. I've been looking for something to knit my 18yo daughter. I showed her Flourish and she said "yes, yes, that's really pretty. I would wear that". Then I showed her the yarn on your blog and she said, "if it was in that colour." so now my job is to source that yarn (we live in Australia) and knit it. Woohoo
Posted by Kerri at January 4, 2012 4:22 AMThe eighties are back? When did this happen? Was there a vote? is there something I need to do? I missed the whole thing.
The vest is fabulous.....
Get another skein of Gaea right away. It will give you psychological relief and you can use it for pockets. You'd have to match them up so the yarn colors fall in the same places and that means more yarn is needed. Can't wait to see the finished vest!
Posted by Bonnie at January 4, 2012 8:47 AMI love the phrase "Argyle Cables" and now want them on everything!
Posted by Genevieve at January 4, 2012 10:03 AMMay the blessing of all things good and knitterly be on you as you go forth into the black hole that is yardage +/-.
Posted by annie at January 4, 2012 10:19 AMYou could always tell her that for a truly 80's look it needs to hang off the shoulder and be cropped along the belly button to show off your incredibly high waist-ed pants... but then again I was born in the 80's so my memories are kind of wooly.
Other than that I think you're luck will hold, the only large garment pattern I made had gauge smaller than called for so I adjusted some and then I had two whole balls leftover. The force is strong in you!
Posted by Heather at January 4, 2012 10:43 AMLol... Argyle cables! I love it! It's a great term and gives you an immediate clear picture!
And I think you're fine. Your experience must be right. And if it's not, then I don't really think it could be considered your fault. I was just talking to my friend who publishes designs (not to drop names, but Yumiko Alexander, only because I don't want you thinking I mean someone who doesn't do it for a living) and she was saying that she used two entire skeins on a project and she was going to put a requirement of three skeins on her pattern just in case. I think most designers must do the same thing.
Anyway, I'm cheering for you to make it! ^_^
Posted by KathyC at January 4, 2012 10:44 AMI had this exact same experience knitting Knitty's "Morgan" for my 2nd daughter's teacher this holiday season - pattern called for a 240yd ball of yarn, and the yarn my daughter wanted me to use came in balls of 220yds. I used the same reasoning you did, only I was more nervous because the very next size up (which didn't require too much more knitting than the size I was doing) wanted *two* balls. My knitterly senses were also tingling the whole way through, but fortunately, there was a bit left over. Hopefully your experience here will be the same!
Posted by Kathleen at January 4, 2012 12:28 PMI know that you're supposed to listen to your little inner voice but I would like to point out that during the '80s, my little inner voice made a lot of really bad suggestions. Neon socks and high heeled pumps! Shoulder pads! Red Heart yarn! I think it may just be an '80s thing and you'll be fine.
Posted by Karen at January 4, 2012 12:37 PMI did a lovely sweater with 12 entire balls of beautiful (discontinued) yarn from my mother's stash. I ran out right at the end of the front, back and both sleeves. Turns out the sweater looks just fine without the button bands and collar. Just saying.
Posted by sylviawon at January 4, 2012 1:32 PMI figure I'll wait a month or so and see how many things are tagged "argyle cables" on ravelry ...
Posted by lenaznap at January 4, 2012 1:59 PMinteresting cable pattern. Tanis Fiber Arts just did a faux argyle pattern on socks. I think that is the 'argyle' pattern your Sam is thinking of.
Posted by Kathy at January 4, 2012 2:45 PMI believe the yarn should be enough.
And for the pockets, maybe you could put semicircle-ish shaped ones in the lowest diamond shape? But that would take more yarn...
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Posted by Lana Avrutova at January 4, 2012 7:57 PMYou are an inspiration in knitting,motherhood and sisterhood.Thank you.
Posted by Lana Avrutova at January 4, 2012 8:04 PMI think the pockets issue could be solved by extending the width of the purl between the last cable curve [ the bottom () on both fronts], and putting the pocket there, using the edges of the cable as a seaming guide and to frame the pocket.
It depends on how big she wants them; if nothing else, the cable can come together in the ribbing and still look quite nice, while adding even more depth to the possible pocket.
Posted by Lindra at January 4, 2012 9:38 PMKnitting AND Duran Duran in the same post = Awesome!
Posted by Heather / ArcticKnitter at January 4, 2012 10:32 PMFor the math challenged - she's talking about TOTAL yardage, not per ball yardage - so 5 balls at 170 yds per ball = 850 yards TOTAL, and 3 balls at 278 yards per ball = 834 yards TOTAL
really, when have you seen a ball of ARAN that is 850 yards long? It would be HUGE! (for example a 100g hank of laceweight is around 800 yards)
Crap! One more vest in my queue. I LOVE the Flourish!
Posted by Gina at January 5, 2012 11:08 AMOK. So if Tina sent you the vest yarn, just how long did it take to get from Scappoose to your house? Most of the time, from barn to Sudbury takes 21 days-I'm doomed. I've become philosophical about it(lol).
Cheers and red wine, Hazel.
Posted by Hazel Smith at January 5, 2012 10:31 PMI have 4!4 second sock syndrome lonely socks waiting for me to stop casting on yet another new yummy fber.I really need to stop avoiding this & just get them done.
Posted by Lana Avrutova at January 6, 2012 3:37 PMIt's probably too late by now, but you could put pockets in the bottom cable diamonds - the semi-invisible way by casting off and casting back on, and then backing them with a square (or diamond) of knitting.
Posted by Nicola at January 9, 2012 7:45 PMYears ago my daughter knit this lovely Celtic knot aran sweater. She spent hours and hours and hours on it (we estimate at least 300) then when she got to the neck we realized that there was not quite enough of the unique homedyed yarn to finish. Fortunately, she was able to use a contrasting color for the torque neck band and then finish the ribbing with the original color. However, I know that both of us spend the last days of her knitting that gorgeous sweater with that same sense of doom you have. I also know how hard it was to find a color that actually worked with our original home dyed one. Henceforward I dye way more yarn than I think a project could ever take. Of course that means that I end up with these random bits of yarn that I didn't end up needing. Someday, I really must knit a scarf or something out of them... However, I definitely vote that you'll make it work and that Samantha will have a gorgeous vest.
Posted by Liz at January 10, 2012 11:39 AM