Comments: Feet Treat

Looks like one to me. Decent instructions can be found in PGR's sock book, and I think there were instructions in a relatively recent issue of Knitty.

I hate them, they don't fit my foot.

Ellen the Incrementalist

Posted by Ellen at June 2, 2004 11:52 AM

Yup, a classic short row heel. And.... it looks gorgeous on those feet!

Absolutely not one of the setbacks you describe could have been averted by studying patterns on the net for hours. Well.... one, that you leave some stitches unworked in the middle, but how long did it take to fix that?

Posted by Elizabeth at June 2, 2004 11:54 AM

The only difference I see between your short row heel and the one I often use (from Wendy, I think) suggests wrapping the stitch a second time.

See Wendy's free generic toe up pattern for details.

Yours looks super!

Posted by Christy at June 2, 2004 12:30 PM

Looks about right to me, too. (The pointy-ness goes away somewhat after a few wearings.) I used the Twisted Sisters directions -- they are the clearest I've found. (But run, run away from their explanation of the Kirchener stitch!)

Knitting socks is much more important than cleaning the house. :)

My condolences re: the hamster.

Posted by Rana at June 2, 2004 1:03 PM

They fit, they're comfy? Then the heel is right, whether it's someone else's heel design or your own intuitive, if slightly inebriated invention. Is your contrast yarn black, or charcoal? Whatever you used, it's perfect.
That yarn is so incredible, I may never knit another sock again until Laurie begins marketing this miracle.
(Laurie, I have been known to pay large amounts of money for yarn far less lovely than this...)

Posted by alison at June 2, 2004 1:04 PM

That's a short row heel, alright. Something I often do, though, is to knit the heel on more like 60% of the stitches. Makes it deeper, which fits my heel better. I'll second the PGR reccommendation... instead of 'wraps', she uses YO's. Somehow, when I tried the wrap method, I always ended up with a rather lacy effect. But the YO's work for me. (I don't, however, suggest buying 'Simple Socks'... the only thing useful to me was the 6 page section on the short row heel.)

Posted by Sarah at June 2, 2004 1:25 PM

OMG! Serious yarn and sock envy. I have the burning desire to drag out my drop spindle, figure it out, learn how to dye, learn how to navajo ply.... Sigh. Nah. I'll just drool over your photos of that fantastic, lovely, truly wonderful socks, made with fantastic yarn, and showcasing some nifty short-row heels.

Posted by Wendy at June 2, 2004 1:26 PM

It matters not to me what the hell it is, I covet those damn socks. I'm still mad at you for showing them to me, coz now I'm going to be stuck in sock envy purgatory until I knit a damn pair, and for that, I may never be able to forgive you. ;-) That yarn is just devastating. DEVASTATING! I need to know this Laurie person. Stat!

Posted by Norma at June 2, 2004 1:31 PM

The socks are beautiful. I knew you were a goddess and would figure it out! I can't do a proper short row heels without instructions let alone on my own. The colors are just yummy!

Posted by margene at June 2, 2004 1:50 PM

We had a rodent death yesterday as well. My condolences.

Next time for kicks, try an afterthought heel.

Through the IK website, you can get the PGR pattern.

Posted by Melissa at June 2, 2004 2:00 PM

What great socks!!! I haven't seen any like these before! ^_^

Posted by Lana at June 2, 2004 2:09 PM

yep, that's it. I wish you had taken pics of the one with the heel on the side of the foot just for giggles though.

Posted by jenifleur at June 2, 2004 2:18 PM

So sorry about the hamster. I have 10 labrador puppies.... I could send you one. Do you have a color/gender preference?

Gorgeous socks! I'm in sock envy too. I hate short row heels. I have battled them several different ways and decided I still hate them. Can do them, but don't wanna. I want to figure out how to do a heel flap, toe up.

Posted by LisaK at June 2, 2004 2:38 PM

Everything they said and then some. (AND I'm glad to be spared screwing with short-row heels.)Enough to reconcile one to this long, cool, soggy spring.

But Harlotele, dahling -- it was Tuesday? Shouldn't you have been spinning? (sound of heavy object hitting wall where rams was standing, cleft hooves clattering away.)No, really (duck,smash) those gift fibers? Don't I hear their tiny piping voices, however cardboard-muffled?

Posted by rams at June 2, 2004 2:48 PM

As I have yet to conquer my Fear of Socks (Rachael swears she can help with that), I have no idea about what constitutes a proper short-row heel. I can only say that the socks are breathtaking and I too will be forced to live in Sock Envy Purgatory until I get my 15 projects off the needles and feel competent enough to attempt a Sock.

Posted by Nathania at June 2, 2004 3:57 PM

Those socks are beautiful, and look great on! Laurie could make some serious sales here - ask for commission !
Sorry about the hampster; when our daughter's gerbil died it was tragic for her. At the moment, however, I am sorely tempted to kill a few rodents who were NOT invited to live with us!

Posted by liz at June 2, 2004 4:35 PM

I have only ever done short row heels, and I think they're fun. I haven't wrapped stitches, or used YO's, I always knit to the right spot, k2tog, k1, turn. Then do the same thing going the other way, purling of course. You always know where you are because you knit the two together that have the big gap between them. My basic pattern I draw from is in the nice "Anatomy of a Basic Sock" article in the 2004 Knit It! from Better Homes and Gardens. www.bhg.com. The cover features a girl overrun by eyelash yarn. BTW, I received the Beehive Sock book like yours that I bought on eBay. Pretty cool. The photos crack me up. Especially the one with the horse silhouettes in the background.

Posted by LauraA at June 2, 2004 5:29 PM

LauraA - that's how the heel on the socks I just finished went. I thought it rather intuitive and easy. I have never done the wrappy thing. I'm just not into that kind of music.

Seriously, though, Miss Harlot, how on earth you can knit an entire sock (knitting the heel 18 times, no less), in a day is no less than the most amazing feat for feet (or for knitting hands, for that matter) of which I have ever heard.

Posted by Jon at June 2, 2004 5:58 PM

Ditto here on the no-wrap approach.

I too am awed by the knitting speed of Stephanie.

Posted by Rana at June 2, 2004 7:47 PM

That's a darn fine pair of socks ya got there, lady! Worthy of Housework Avoidance, indeed :-) Love the contrasting heels. Tres chic!

Posted by Amy at June 2, 2004 8:52 PM

Definitely a cool short row heel, and Rana is quite right to note that the pointiness of the heel DOES go away. I think that this kind of heel works for some feet and not for others. I like a snug instep and keeping the colors going (or stripes or jacquard or whatever) so it works for me. Also I am almost always knitting from the toe up to use up all the possible yarn. For obvious reasons. Many thanks for the compliments on the yarn (I see a spinning error from here!), but I am definitely NOT going into business with it; it would be very much like turning knitting complicated sweaters for fun and family, where neither expense nor time matters in the slightest, into a job I could not put down when work got equally complex and demanding. As it does all too frequently, alas!

Posted by Laurie at June 2, 2004 10:03 PM

that yarn - and those socks - are absolutely stunning. wow. i've never knit a sock in my life, so i don't know if you did the short heel correctly or not, but it looks fabulous. :)

condolences on the hampster. those little things go so fast...

Posted by Jae at June 3, 2004 1:49 AM

I read through all the comments to see if anyone else picked up on "grok." I hadn't thought of/heard that in years and years...

Posted by jee at June 3, 2004 9:33 AM

I thought your use of "grok" was singularly apt, and I, too, wondered how many of your Devoted Followers would "grok" it. It brought back a laugh at the memory of a friend's Mom who made her remove an "I grok" bumper sticker from her beater ol' car because her Mom was afraid it meant something DIRTY. Heaven forfend!
Kendra

Posted by Kendra at June 3, 2004 11:09 AM

I have yet to complete a short row heel that I liked. The PGR technique has been highly recommended and I have the book, because I can't help myself, so I'm going to try that one soon. But, if I understand correctly, doing the decrease at the end of the row might really be the solution for me. I can't abide the lacy look I usually get.

And I'm amazed as ever at how fast you can turn out such beauties.

Posted by Larry at June 3, 2004 11:16 AM

Of course you had to pick option 3! It provides a. the satisfaction of doing it yourself b. an excuse to drink wine c. a darn good reason not to do housework d. an excuse to drink wine. Now you do "grok" it, and the wine helped...this is the new millenium, water just don't cut it!
Sorry to hear about the hamster...that's always so tough. Funerals always help the kids through stuff like that. When our dog died when the kids were small, we planted flowers on his grave, and they said he'd turned into the flowers and they felt better.
Love the socks, and love the yarn. Good thing you don't sell it, Laurie. My husband would have to live on beans forever cause I'd spend the grocery money on the yarn.
Barb Brown

Posted by Barb Brown at June 3, 2004 11:17 AM

Those are the coolest socks I've ever seen. Bar none.

Posted by Rachael at June 5, 2004 7:40 AM

All right, fess up... what yarn did you make these out of?? I have to get some! And did you really get them done in one day? I envy you... *sigh*

Posted by Shansu at November 19, 2004 1:13 PM

Re June 2/04 Short row socks.

With all due respect (and how much respect is due a harlot, after all?), who's looking at the heels? Those are some spectrally spectacular socks!

Posted by Sharon at January 10, 2005 6:21 PM